Matt, creator of the terrific WordPress blog system, says that Firefox beat out Internet Explorer in number of people accessing wordpress.org by about 80,000. As he points out, this obviously isn’t representative of the Web at large or of people visiting WordPress blogs, but of WordPress users themselves, which is his target audience. Of course, these users will design websites that adhere to standards, and thus work in Firefox.
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January 31, 2005
8 Responses to “First the bloggers use you…”
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January 31st, 2005 at 11:55 pm
Most WP users are also Firefox users…my stats for Dec 04 were 81% FF / 8.6 IE, but in Jan 05 Firefox was down 60% FF / 31% IE.
February 1st, 2005 at 4:33 am
Nice. But i don’t have a wordpress because it costs money.
February 1st, 2005 at 8:49 am
Shuai - WordPress is free software. You just need a web server with PHP installed to use it.
February 1st, 2005 at 10:39 am
“Of course, these users will design websites that adhere to standards, and thus work in Firefox.”
No offense, Blake, but that’s crap, and you know it. I’m aware of no evidence that suggests people who designed Web pages for browser-specific rendering bugs will stop doing so just because they switched browsers. One big reason Firefox has been such a huge success is that along with handling modern, standards-compliant design, it also handles built-for-IE pages almost as well as IE does (well enough for people to make the switch, at least). If a new user finds that their pages originally built for IE work fine in Firefox, why would they suddenly decide to change coding habits?
There’s nothing inherent about Firefox that stops users from writing the same messed-up code that they wrote before. The only difference is that they’ll be testing it with another browser.
February 1st, 2005 at 1:47 pm
Hi Joel,
I generally try not to say things that I believe are “crap” on my own blog, so please don’t tell me what I do and do not know. Thanks.
IE supports a mind-numbingly wide array of non-standard extensions. Firefox does not support most of these.
Over the past few weeks and months, we’ve watched as webmasters fix their once IE-only sites to work in Firefox. In fact, in many cases, some of the people on the Firefox evangelism team have helped them fix their code. So how are most of these people “fixing” their code? Are they simply adding a new Firefox code path? No. Most of them are acknowledging the emergence of a multibrowser climate and starting to code to standards.
What I said is not “crap”.
-Blake
February 1st, 2005 at 2:17 pm
This is not a comment about this entry, but a comment about Joel Bruick’s comment.
Mr Bruick please respect other’s blogs and their opinions. I would not dream of going onto someone elses blog and starting off with your opening comment.
February 1st, 2005 at 4:38 pm
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February 2nd, 2005 at 12:22 am
I’m also skeptical that just because someone uses Firefox they will create standards compliant sites. Gecko renders tagsoup as well as it ever did. So it’s probably accurate to say such people will create more browser-agnostic sites, but that isn’t the same as standards compliant sites.
When a large portion of the web moves to XHTML Strict and application/xhtml+xml, then we can revisit this claim. :-)