Tristan Nitot over at Mozilla Europe points to a new marketshare study by the XiTi firm that reveals some stunning figures in Europe—31% in Finland, 22% in Germany, 18% in Poland and 13% in France. Not that it’s the only factor driving such fast adoption, but Europeans seem to “get” open source moreso than we Americans—why is that?
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April 29, 2005
22 Responses to “Firefox popularity explodes in Europe”
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April 29th, 2005 at 7:43 am
Yes, I’ve been wondering why that is too. Haven’t thought of a good explanation yet though…
April 29th, 2005 at 7:43 am
Ps. Halfway is pretty close now.
April 29th, 2005 at 8:00 am
Google has around 27,400 results for “open source unamerican”.
April 29th, 2005 at 8:12 am
And 27.9 million results for Firefox American ;)
April 29th, 2005 at 8:14 am
oops, those results were for Open source American
April 29th, 2005 at 8:43 am
I’d guess it’s because software is more expensive around here. Not that I’ve been over to America and compared, but I imagine American merchandise (which is primarily what software is) would be more expensive over here.
April 29th, 2005 at 8:49 am
I would guess that some of it has to do with the general anti-American-capitalist sentiment that hovers in Europe. If they don’t like the capitalist megacorps, they are less likely to buy their software. Besides, Firefox is just plain better.
April 29th, 2005 at 9:49 am
No, when Firefox’s passed 50 mil., I coudn’t resist to do the math:
Finlande 30,91% 3,260,000 1,007,340
Allemagne 22,89% 46,312,662 10,600,968
Hongrie 19,42% 3,050,000 592,310
Rép. Tchèque 18,86% 3,530,000 665,758
Pologne 17,92% 10,600,000 1,899,520
Suède 16,06% 6,656,716 1,069,068
Luxembourg 14,81% 170,000 25,177
Suisse 14,32% 4,688,775 671,432
France 13,37% 24,848,009 3,322,178
Estonie 12,25% 621,000 76,072
Royaume Uni 12,12% 35,179,141 4,263,711
Norvège 11,95% 3,140,000 375,230
Autriche 11,28% 4,630,000 522,264
Roumanie 11,12% 4,000,000 444,800
Belgique 10,96% 5,100,000 558,960
Pays-bas 10,68% 10,806,328 1,154,115
Irlande 10,02% 2,060,000 206,412
Espagne 10,01% 14,590,180 1,460,477
Danemark 10,01% 3,720,000 372,372
Portugal 9,82% 3,600,000 353,520
Italie 9,21% 28,610,000 2,634,981
Grèce 8,96% 3,800,000 340,480
Monaco 8,94% 16,000 1,430
Lituanie 3,49% 695,000 24,255
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32,642,835
Hopefully, the numbers are pretty obvious. Shame on you, Americans! ;-)
Resources:
http://www.xitimonitor.com/etudes/equipement6.asp
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats4.htm#eu
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats4.htm#e
April 29th, 2005 at 10:11 am
Is that really a fair statement? Open source usage is rampant at every development shop I’ve worked at here in the US (across the country), and Firefox usage is around 10% here, last I checked.
We’ve got major newspapers reporting on it, we just had the Time Top 100 story, and the buzz is only continuing. We haven’t reached 30% penetration yet, but I think our using is comporable to several countries in that survey, and still growing.
April 29th, 2005 at 2:12 pm
I wouldn’t believe these stats very much.
For Poland, they show almost 18% Firefox usage while the stats by a local measurement company (Gemius SA) which uses site-centric measurement and is present on virtually all major Polish web sites say only 9,2% Poles use Firefox. Here is a link to these stats:
http://ranking.pl/rank.php?stat=browPL
(they are updated weekly)
April 29th, 2005 at 5:31 pm
Well, Europe (in the geographical sense) totals about 450M population, while the US has about 270M. Of course, the lies and damn lies proverb applies.
Note, though, that Firefox is not the sole example. Linux, to name just the most successful open source project ever, had serious impact over here much sooner than in the states. I’m not sure I can put my finger on the sentiment, but saying it’s just anti-americanism is wishful trivialization.
April 29th, 2005 at 9:18 pm
maf: think a second about what differs those two stats. Gemius tracks polish-speaking users visiting polish domains. Those stats are about living_in_Poland people who are visiting english (or oth. language) sites. This is a huge difference.
And, speaking of gemius, it’s not a best source to create an idea about polish market. Their stats have many issues which we (MozillaPL) are trying to resolve together with Gemius now.
April 30th, 2005 at 11:45 am
gandalf:
If XiTi tries to estimate the browser usage for countries basing only on visits of English or other foreign sites, then it’s broken. Non-native English speakers who visit English sites are more likely to be educated and make better decisions about the software they use than the masses. Generalising usage from this limited group of people for the whole population makes no sense.
Gemius doesn’t track just polish-speaking people visiting Polish sites but _ALL_ people visiting Polish sites. Because most Poles visit mostly Polish sites, their stats are more accurate (they know about what sites, English/Polish, are more visited from the panel-based research they conduct too).
May 1st, 2005 at 3:13 pm
I’ve seen firefox creep from 1% a few months back to 10% on one of my websites :D
When wil it hit 100%? - soon?
May 2nd, 2005 at 3:55 am
> but Europeans seem to “get” open source moreso than we Americans—why is that?
we’re just waaayyy cool ;)
May 2nd, 2005 at 12:41 pm
I’d hate to say this but it makes sense that Europeans would catch on quicker.
Americans are very reluctant to change, and having lived in Europe, I would bet that the ratio of young people to old people is a lot higher. And younger people are more tech literate.
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May 10th, 2005 at 5:19 am
Perhaps because Europe seems to be more tolerant to multicultural isssues. Firefox can be seen as an example of a “different culture” (open-source) as oposed to the “mainstream culture” (business-like proprietary software).
May 11th, 2005 at 2:43 pm
Why !!!
Many posters adressed it already, living in the Netherlands i guess it has something to do with all the tiny bit’s i will adress below ;
It’s anti Bill(gates), Against a dominating culture by mega company’s, social(istic) driven software, our society is more idealistic then American culture, against pushed monopolistic (expensive) software
Into change and we like free choice !!! like to join a global force wich is capable to beat monopolistic capitalistic systems in a way were commercial driven society hasn’t found an answer.
It is not only firefox, it is Open source what is booming and it has just started !!!
May 16th, 2005 at 10:56 am
Where lived that boy that in early 90’s created an his own OS instead purchase the other one…? :))
May 17th, 2005 at 4:49 am
Finland?
Ok so I live in Finland and practically no one except me uses alternative browsers, at least in the area I live in. I’m amazed.
“why is that?”
I have no idea. Well, Linus Torvalds is Finnish too, so…
Oh, we were talking about Europe not Finland. I think it’s just a coincidence of some sort, not psychology or culture. Europe is pretty much a mixed bag anyway, so you can’t simply categorize “European culture” and compare it to the American one.
It could be that we’re more intelligent than Americans in overall, so we also use computers more. As a result, we also use more interesting software because a hacker needs better software.
And, of course, USA is run by big corporations. You have Microsoft and all that, and are happy with it. Open Source and Free Software gathers more supporters here (at least in Finland).
We also use Linux more. Basically that means some extra thousand more people using Firefox or Mozilla. (What else would they be using: Konqueror, Dillo? Give me a break.)
How about third world countries then? One would expect some open source popularity there, too…
January 16th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
You know, I’m from Finland too and all my friends including me use firefox. In our school every computer use Firefox so the high per cent share isn’t surprise..